Facing Ourselves Podcast

A podcast about racial justice, anti-racism, and racial reconciliation. This podcast provides opportunities for white people to develop greater understanding and responsibility regarding race and racism. Hosted by psychologists Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck.
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Jan 17, 2017

In order to try and answer that question you need to understand the difference between prejudice and racism, know what systemic racism is, and be aware of implicit racial bias. All of which, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck talk about in episode 7.

Because this episode takes a more instructional approach, it’s been divided into two parts. In part 1, Brandy talks about racism vs. prejudice, systemic racism, and the importance of being actively anti-racist (even if you’re not overtly racist, which we hope you are not!). And in part 2, Danielle provides an in-depth, research-based explanation of implicit racial bias and how it impacts our daily lives.

An upcoming episode will focus on how to unlearn racial biases in our own lives.  

Resources discussed in episode 7:

Rev. Traci Blackmon on showing up as an ally

Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?: And Other Discussions About Race

What is Systemic Racism?

Is Reverse Racism a Thing?

Krista Tippet’s interview with Mahzarin Banaji

Project Implicit

Additional resources:

Review of Beverly Tatum’s book

Kirwan Institute for the Study of Race and Ethnicity

Blindspot: Hidden Biases of Good People


Jan 11, 2017

This week we say farewell to President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama and face an uncertain future with a new president and administration. In this episode, which originally aired after the election, co-hosts Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck share, with rawness and openness, their own emotional response to the election and how to push forward.


In episode 4, Drs. Brandy Liebscher and Danielle Beck grapple with the reality of a Trump presidency. They share their own emotional turmoil in the wake of this election, mindful of the fear, pain, and anger of those already vulnerable and marginalized in the United States. They also discuss their resolve to support white people who are committed to anti-racism and racial justice and what that means for the Facing Ourselves podcast. And if you're worried about those upcoming conversations with friends and family at Thanksgiving, they got you covered there, too.

If you haven’t already, be sure to check out Brandy’s article about the importance of "repurposed space" for white people committed to racial justice.

For support and guidance on moving forward, including how to handle those difficult conversations at Thanksgiving, be sure to check out these resources:

Brittany Packnett's article White People: What is your plan for the Trump presidency?

Southern Poverty Law Center's Speak Up: Responding to Everyday Bigotry

Showing Up for Racial Justice Thanksgiving discussion guide

PICO National Network (multi-faith community organizing)